Crying it out

Clowe, does your baby know how to lay back down? spend some time during the day to teach him how so you know that he knows how. In our case, we just let him stand there and cry, he would eventually lay down by himself and go to sleep.
 
thank you milkmonster and EVERYONE for your very helpful replies. milkmonster, i think the pain is lower abdomenal, poor thing.

so one question - what happens if baby cries at 6am when it's getting very close to 7am wake-up time? do you then go to him and treat it like it's morning already or still let him cry it out? i assume the latter is risky considering he could cry til his wake up time and then all the crying is rewarded by a pick-up which is just cruel and confusing to him, right?
 
if your baby wakes up close to around his normal wake up time, let him play in his cot until his normal wake-up time. sometimes our son wakes up at 5:30am, but his wake up time is from 6/6:30am. Occassionally he will cry, but then will begin playing once he realizes no one is coming in. I check on him once to make sure he has not pooped and if not, I let him be until at least 6am.

If you pick-up before real wake-up time, it does send a mixed message.
 
Poor baby! Lower tummy pain is really painful!! Does he have a specific pain cry that you can recognize that is different from a fussy/frustrated cry?

Our wake up time is 8am, if my 6mth old wakes up earlier - which he does sometimes, (once around 3am - which has stopped now, and once around 6am - which happens every few days) I leave him and he usually falls asleep after 20mins of playing. He used to wake up crying but since we never got him, after 2 or 3 days of crying he stopped and just babbles to himself. My 6mth old poops only once a day (has been like that since birth, even on breast milk) so I know that he didn't poop. For my older son, we use to crack open the door to take a 'sniff' but would make sure he didn't see us. This morning my 6mth old was actually squealing in delight to who knows what but it sure was a nice change to the crying!! (again I always trust my gut. if he sounds like he's really hungry or he cries longer than 20mins, I will get him and feed him.) I don't think that getting them after they have already spent 20mins alone in the morning is setting a bad habit because eventually, they will learn that they always have to wait at least 20mins and will stop crying with the expectation to be picked up right away. You can always start adding time after your baby gets used to the 20mins. adding 5mins at a time, until you get to your desired wake up time.

with my older son, i was pregnant and sick so when he would wake up, i was feeling so tired that I just let him hang out in his crib until I was ok to get up and even though it wasn't my intention, he learned to sleep in. Now as a 22mth old he goes to bed at 730pm and is up around 8 or 830am. I am hoping I can encourage my 6mth old to do the same :)

I have some happy news to share, tonight my 6mth old went to sleep NO CRYING at 745pm!!! I am really hoping it will stay like this and we are over the crying to sleep phase!!! I am trying to get to a 7 or 730pm bedtime so I am really thrilled and relieved about this!!!
 
For us, anything after 6am was acceptable. This was based on a 7pm bedtime, her age and amount of day time sleep. E.g. for her age 11-12 hours at night was considered normal with 3 hours sleep in the day.

We'd leave her for 5 minutes to see if she went back to sleep, if not, we'd get her up. I was assured it would slowly lengthen and it did.

She's now at an 8pm bedtime with one nap of 2 - 2.5 hours in afternoon and wakes anywhere between 7-8am. It's earlier right now after a bout of illness, but that's fine for us and I'm sure it will go back a bit when she feel's totally better.

You prob need to look at bedtimes, day time sleep, figure out what's reasonable to expect and what's acceptable for you and your family situation.
 
this morning i experienced an early wake-up call today from my baby...my baby's 'scheduled' time is 7.00 am and today he woke up at 6.15 am....i had gone to bed reading Tizzie hall (thanks to aussie mum who had lent it to me) wherein she says that u should never ignore an emotional cry - which is like a monotonous wa-wa-wa-wa-wa diff from a protest cry like waaah...wa...waah....wa....going higher and lower pitched...waiting and watching if someone is picking him up or not.....Ok So i went in and that is it...he saw me and wanted me to play....i tried hard to rock him back to sleep but after 30 mins i gave up....and at 6.45 i gave him his milk.

had i just ignored or waited for his cry to end i guess he would have gone back to sleep and woken up at 7.00am.

BTW i have just started the CIO method with my 8-month old about 10 days ago and i was surprised when it actually worked on the first night itself!!! my method is a little diff though i do not (not yet) put him to sleep on own....i rock or nurse him to sleep but after that every time he wakes up i wait it out - for 5 mins/10 mins/15 mins before i go in....i have realised that my going in only causes him to cry louder so i avoied doing taht as much as possible...but twice he has woken up with a leaking nappy (can someone recommend a good brand pls?)..

so i would say every baby is diff ...read all the books but then u have to experimenta nd work out a style best suited for yrself and baby....

my baby had / still has gas probs and i wind him as much as possible before i like him down in his cot.

hope this helps
 
I have never been a fan of he CIO method, however I was having a lot of sleep issues with my 6 month old and on recommendations from my paed I decided to try this weekend. Am currently on night 3, the first night she woke and cried for an hour, I went in 3 times and picked her up once, after an hour she fell asleep. Night 2 she slept 12 hours and last night she woke and sang for 30 mins before going back to sleep. She has been a much happier baby during the day because she is getting a proper night's sleep - before she was up 2/3 times a night for more than an hour sometimes.

The only thing now is thar she wakes very early in the morning and wants her milk, but I reckon that I can move this little by little every day.

It may not work for everyone, but I had tried many other techniques and this is the only one that has given good results and she is such a happy smily baby that I don't believe it's done her any damage :o)
 
Thanks ladies for all your helpful replies. One quick question - a few of you warned to be consistent with nap times during the day. How did you use CIO during the day time? if he cries for an hour during the afternoon before napping for 40 minutes, doesn't that cut into your day bigtime and disrupt your daytime schedules?
 
HI CLOWE77, i have not yet used the CIO for daytime since it does not suit my needs...i have an elder son and i cannot expect him to stay there and hear his bro cry himself to sleep........due to his bad night sleeeping habits my baby has never slept for more than 40 mins for his 3 daytime naps prior to CIO, after CIO he has himself graduated to one-hour naps and i am trying to get him to sleep for 2-hrs in the afternoon....but in all this i always rock him to sleep....what about the other mums??
 
For us, we were going into his room during the day and then not at night when our son cried. This confused him as the message was unclear. During the day, if my son cries before his "wake-up time window" we do not go in. If he is clearly awake and not going back to sleep, I wait for a lull in the crying and then go to him. Normally now, he will cry for at most for 10 minutes, then will either go back to sleep or play in his crib. FOr me, I didn't want him associating crying with mom/dad coming in to comfort him. I also know that if he can put himself back to sleep at night, he can certainly do it during the day.
 
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