For people who don't like the idea of controlled crying, I can recommend "The no-cry sleep solution" by Elizabeth Pantley which I ordered from Geobaby. It does give guidance for a plan of action (much more gradual than controlled crying), which entails logging your baby's routine, devising a realistic goal for the next 10 days, when progress can be evaluated and the plan for the next 10 days drawn up. It also gives reassurance about what can be expected of babies of various ages.
Sleep School
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barbwong - I went to sleep school in Australia twice - at 6 weeks and 3 months. At that age they DO NOT advise you to cry it out, or controllled crying. Well, the one I went to didn't. They teach you about hands on settling and helping the baby to teach itself to go to sleep. There is some crying involved, but the parent is always in the room. My baby cried a lot less using these methods than she did when having no sleep. Oh yeah, and I cried a lot less too !! I was told I was on my way to PND (which I always thought was just sleep deprivation for me) and sleep school saved me.
J_s couldn't agree with you more. Happy mum=happy bub. If you do have to cry it out, don't feel guilty for one second.
Yvonne - thanks for your sensible advice. WIsh I'd found you at the right time.
J_s couldn't agree with you more. Happy mum=happy bub. If you do have to cry it out, don't feel guilty for one second.
Yvonne - thanks for your sensible advice. WIsh I'd found you at the right time.
Yvonne, what a breath of fresh air you are! seriously, do you do private consultations? maybe I can hire you when we arrive in June?
the breastfeeding thing is a dilemma - my paediatrician told me breastfed babies wake more often, and I did get a bit cross that no one has warned me of that. I still would have fed him, but I feel that the "breast is best" brigade have manipulated the information given to mothers a bit.
when we get to HK and change apartments after 10 days, I plan to stay in the old one (same building) for one sweet night of sleep. of course I can't sleep if he's crying elsewhere in the house.
oh and maid included? what maid?:burnout: I'll be lucky if I can get one afternoon's care a week - we're only coming for 6 months and will be in a smaller apartment, and a maid is really not an option. I do realise that a lot of women on the board will have helpers and that everyone who cares for a baby has to have the same approach, though.
it's 8.30 pm here, that's my bedtime. I figure if I can't get more than 90 minutes sleep at a time, I might as well get the volume. sigh.
the breastfeeding thing is a dilemma - my paediatrician told me breastfed babies wake more often, and I did get a bit cross that no one has warned me of that. I still would have fed him, but I feel that the "breast is best" brigade have manipulated the information given to mothers a bit.
when we get to HK and change apartments after 10 days, I plan to stay in the old one (same building) for one sweet night of sleep. of course I can't sleep if he's crying elsewhere in the house.
oh and maid included? what maid?:burnout: I'll be lucky if I can get one afternoon's care a week - we're only coming for 6 months and will be in a smaller apartment, and a maid is really not an option. I do realise that a lot of women on the board will have helpers and that everyone who cares for a baby has to have the same approach, though.
it's 8.30 pm here, that's my bedtime. I figure if I can't get more than 90 minutes sleep at a time, I might as well get the volume. sigh.
Sleep school/ sleep problem for a 4.5months old
Anyone know if there is a sleep school in HK now? The thread on this topic was dated (back in 2004) when they said there isnt any.
I am desperately needing advice on how to put my baby of 4.5 months to sleep!!! She took cat nap of less than 30min each time during the day, and wakes up almost every hour at night!!! It is not hunger or wet nappies that wakes her up, as she will wake up even after I fed her (5-6oz of formula every 3-4 hourly) and changed her nappy!!! Though it was relatively 'easy' to put her back to sleep all the way up to 3am (by giving her the dummy) - the task become very difficult after that. I can see that she is very tired and is trying to sleep but she just couldnt! Then she will start to throw tantrum and cry... all the way till 7-8am before she sleeps again. But of more concerns to me is - why cant she stay asleep??? Why is she waking up every 15min during the day, and every hour during the night??? I am so exhausted from waking up every hour to attend to her, and then waking up and staying awake from 3-4am onwards!!!
I tried contacting Adventist and Canossa hospitals to ask about their sleep clinic. I have not heard from Adventist yet. But Canossa was very helpful - they called me the very next day. Unfortunately, the sleep clinic is catered to 'older' children/ adults. So they refer me to their well baby clinic. The midwifes there are very helpful and gave me some advice. I tried some of them, like let her sleep on her side with 2 pillows - one in front and one at the back. But it didnt work. She still wakes up every hour. I tried controlled crying, and it doesnt work too. I tried keeping her awake during the day hoping she will really tired out at night and sleep through, but she wakes up 10min later and keep waking up the whole night too!!!
I have read 'Healthy sleep habit, happy child' by Marc Weissbluth. It worked with my elder daughter who is now over 2 years old (I started training her to sleep on her own around 4 months), but doesnt work with my 4.5months!!! Anyone with anymore tips? Or know anyone who might be able to help??? Midwifes? Doctors? Specialists???
Anyone know if there is a sleep school in HK now? The thread on this topic was dated (back in 2004) when they said there isnt any.
I am desperately needing advice on how to put my baby of 4.5 months to sleep!!! She took cat nap of less than 30min each time during the day, and wakes up almost every hour at night!!! It is not hunger or wet nappies that wakes her up, as she will wake up even after I fed her (5-6oz of formula every 3-4 hourly) and changed her nappy!!! Though it was relatively 'easy' to put her back to sleep all the way up to 3am (by giving her the dummy) - the task become very difficult after that. I can see that she is very tired and is trying to sleep but she just couldnt! Then she will start to throw tantrum and cry... all the way till 7-8am before she sleeps again. But of more concerns to me is - why cant she stay asleep??? Why is she waking up every 15min during the day, and every hour during the night??? I am so exhausted from waking up every hour to attend to her, and then waking up and staying awake from 3-4am onwards!!!
I tried contacting Adventist and Canossa hospitals to ask about their sleep clinic. I have not heard from Adventist yet. But Canossa was very helpful - they called me the very next day. Unfortunately, the sleep clinic is catered to 'older' children/ adults. So they refer me to their well baby clinic. The midwifes there are very helpful and gave me some advice. I tried some of them, like let her sleep on her side with 2 pillows - one in front and one at the back. But it didnt work. She still wakes up every hour. I tried controlled crying, and it doesnt work too. I tried keeping her awake during the day hoping she will really tired out at night and sleep through, but she wakes up 10min later and keep waking up the whole night too!!!
I have read 'Healthy sleep habit, happy child' by Marc Weissbluth. It worked with my elder daughter who is now over 2 years old (I started training her to sleep on her own around 4 months), but doesnt work with my 4.5months!!! Anyone with anymore tips? Or know anyone who might be able to help??? Midwifes? Doctors? Specialists???
they have a sleep clinic at annerley midwives (lisetd here at geobaby) maybe you can try calling them. i have similar problems with my girl when she was that age. i don't remember how we made thru it. now she just wakes up every 3 hours... (& she's 2 already). and i'll call their sleep clinic soon.
good luck~!
good luck~!
somebodyfamous
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I would recommend the book "Good Night, Sleep Tight" by Kim West. She's known as the Sleep Lady and doesn't use 'crying it out' and has a gentle technique to teach babies to learn how to sleep