Queen Mary Hospital Question URGENT question..

forgot to mention that my first birth there was anything but wonderful. it was awful.

had no choice and returned for my second. this one was a million times better!

if my hubby agrees to a third time, it will be back there for me again, without batting an eye.

i guess what you can glean from this thread is that every person's experience is different, some great, some good, some ok, some bad and some terrible.
 
Cara, I was able to look at my file (Which was placed next to my bed before the doctor's visit every morning and taken away later on) but not allowed to look at my daughter's file.
We saw the doc looking into her case once after waiting for 2 days since he was very busy. All he said in a hurry was that she had a bacterial infection, was being given antibiotics and we shouldn't worry too much. The nurses gave us some information sparingly on her current status only on being asked.
I understand this might be due to the fact that the staff there is very overworked but that is no excuse for not letting us access to her file or not giving us time to talk about her or giving us details of her entire treatment. Or is it?
 
Hi everyone,

Gosh so many different stories to take in that it seems it is down to personal experience.. I just hope everythign is ok with me adn the baby adn I will discharge myself within 24 hours - legally they can not keep you so I will get out fast and rest at home which I think will be nicer.

I have heard many great things about the care and so I hope to have a good experience there. As private is just not a financial option I will just make it work.

Thank you all so so much
 
unless of course you end up with a c-section, then you'd be crazy to go home after 24 hours!

geomum, i agree. i would have kicked up such a fuss if they didn't let me look at my child's file... i don't blame you in the least.

i'm glad your little one is ok now.
 
A lot of the bad stories you hear about public hospitals are to do with expectations. Usually concerning who is allowed in the room with you (like the story above about the mother flying in from the US), and the facilities, as well as the level of disclosure when it comes to the mother and baby's health.

You need to go in there with the expectation that you're in another country, and this is the way they do things. It is not the same as a private suite in the US, or a birthing room in Australia, you're in Hong Kong and they're not going to change their systems to suit other cultures.

So, don't necessarily assume your husband will be with you all the time. Don't assume anyone else will be able to be with you at all, or see the baby after it's born. Your husband has to leave after the baby is born. If you have other children, they can't come and see you or visit the baby.

Like someone said, try to stay home as long as you can, if possible. Then you won't be in the hospital for the long early stages of labour, potentially on your own. Be persistent with asking questions, if you don't feel like you're getting enough information.

I really dislike a lot of the approaches to birth in HK public hospitals but that's too bad, I have chosen to give birth here and all I can do is try to make my experience as good as it can be within the limitations they give. Swapping horror stories is mostly only good for stressing out mothers-to-be who are nervous enough already.
 
Hi Kharel,

You said that legally, they cannot keep you in hospital and you're going to discharge yourself within 24hours. We really would like to do that too and actually asked the nurse if we could discharge ourselves early, if everything was ok. She said the mother can go but they will keep the baby there?! Do you (or anyone) know if this is true? I wouldn't want to stay in hospital for any longer than necessary, especially with the tight visiting hours, but leaving the baby in the hospital without me is definitely not an option!
 
I had my daughter at QMH in March this year, she was born at 9pm and daughter and I both left QMH the following lunch time. We would have left sooner but they insist you and baby see doctor, which seemed fair. They were surprised we wanted to leave but I was insistant!
Good luck!
 
hkaussie, I would say exactly the same - however, from numerous stays in QMH, I can say pretty certainly that the treatment dished out to non-Chinese is very different. If my husband was there for 5 minutes past visiting hours, he was told to get out, let the local patients had people coming and going at all hours, with no questions asked.
The lack of communication is staggering - and it's not because of 'the way they do things' - it's because of an overwheling attitude amongst staff that Western = spoiled and rich. On several occasions I got asked questions like "Why aren't you at Matilda?" (because we couldn;t afford it in a million years), "Why don't you ask your helper to do it?" (We didn;t have one), or the best one was when the doctor came around with a group of students, didn't ven look at me - just pulled off my blanket and started talking to the students. I was quite upset at this, and I noticed that when the students visited every other patient in the room (all Chinese) - he would speak a few words first. He spoke excellent English - he just couldn't be bothered.

When you sign your baby into special care, you sign a form that says the hospital then decides what happens. I had to fight two peds to tel me why my child had a dozen blood tests in half an hour, why he was still in the SCU give nights after his 24 hour jaundice treatment had finished: I found out at the end that they were taking extra blood for 'stud' - which I wouldn't have minded if it was one extra prick - but it was more like a dozen. They also kept him up there becasue the 'paperwork' was too 'complicated' to transfer him back to the ob ward. Yet the Chinese lady in teh next bed, whose daughter also had 24 hour jaundice treatment, was back the next day. Go figure. I read his chart - nothing else to keep him up there but laziness on the part of staff.


What was worse - I complained and complained about pain in my IV site(s). One nurse told me to "be quiet - cannot hurt so much". I had a severe infection, and still have a numb patch on that wrist -nearly three years later. The last 36 hours I was in hospital, I didn't get to speak to a doctor about it, and the nurses refused to call someone. I was discharged with a fever, and red line up my arm from the infection. I was at the private GP's ASAP for the medication I should have been prescribed before I left.
The standard of care is great for surgery - for medicine and after care, it is simply shocking. But for those of us who cannot afford the fees for private hospitals, (or who simply need a level of surgical care which only the public system can provide) - there is no other option.

At my sic week check up, the doctor basically called me a liar - that if I had an infection, they would have noticed and taken care of it. What a load of c**p.

So if we have a second, I will go back to QMH, but I will be out of the minute I can be, and go to get checked out by doctors who fulfil ALL their professional obligations.

Harsh - but true!
 
all in all - QM sounds very efficient and they have good stats to back them up. I personally think I would much prefer to be in QM in HK than back in a public hospital in my own country.

i selected Matilda upon first hearing that I was pregnant but frankly speaking, I am in the throws of changing my mind to to QM. afterall, it if there is an emergency, i am going to end up there anyway.

aussiemum is right as in due july etc... your experience is all about expectation management and if something serious happens ie bubs is sick for a week etc etc and you are not getting info, i would sincerely recommend that you dont let 'no comment' be the answer.

For me, I take responsibility for the amount of information I have/get. this might sound harsh but i would prefer to be known at the crazy chick yelling down the halls than not knowing what is happening with my bubs over a long period of time.

good luck to everyone soon to give birth. may it be everything that your heart desires it to be and may the sight of your bub be bigger than your wildest dreams!
 

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