Orgasmic Birth
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Shenzhennifer
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`Mommy, tell me about when I was born.`
`...Maybe when you`re older, dear.`
`...Maybe when you`re older, dear.`
fingerscrossed
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I suppose it depends on the OB you're with. I was encouraged to go ahead with natural birth, despite my age, etc, and that's exactly what I did. But true, hospitals/OBs here don't do water births.
Umm, an orgasm was definitely THE last thing on my mind during contractions. Some people really have mind-blowing imaginations.
Me too--because:
1. Not allowed to do homebirth with a certified nurse midwife
2. No birthing centers in Hong Kong
3. An extremely high c-section rate in Hong Kong
4. Birthing coaches/doulas not allowed in the birthing room (right?)
5. No access to hot water/tubs during labor (right?)
Where I'm from, these are the bare minimum requirements that need to be made available for natural birth options to be fair.
I think the term "natural birth options" refers to more than just the attitude of the OB. If the OB is like, "Yeah, sure, have a natural birth" but then doesn't coach you/teach you how to have one and make the tools and setting available as well as personnel available to really encourage you to have one, that's not really a "natural birth option." It's kind of one of those things, "If you can do it, do it, but don't expect any extra support" here in HK, I think. Did your OB actively help you have a natural birth or were you simply able to pull it off on your own?
barbwong_130
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When you talk about 'natural' birth are you meaning a birth with no drugs or a vaginal birth?
My view is that there is very, very little help in Hong Kong for a birth without drugs. I only know about five mothers who have managed this here.
My view is that there is very, very little help in Hong Kong for a birth without drugs. I only know about five mothers who have managed this here.
Vaginal birth is vaginal birth but natural birth is a drug-free birth, in my opinion. You can have a vaginal birth with drugs and interventions (suction, forceps) but you can't really call your birth a "natural" one if you had a dose of narcotics to numb the pain, I think or your labor was started or augmented artificially. I guess I'm a "purest" in that sense, though.
The nurse midwife at the birth of my son, had worked in several different settings before working at the hospital I gave birth at. She told me that in most birthing centers, pain medication is not even an option on the table--instead they provide a plethora of natural aides to get you through labor.
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solidstars
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I read somewhere that crouching/bending down really helps bring the baby along (gravity and all). i mentioned this to my doctor early on in the pregnancy and he almost laughed at me... basically, 'no they don't do things like that'.
i think they're just not equipped for it?
i think they're just not equipped for it?
Squatting (if you can do it) is the best position for giving birth because it 1) Opens up your pelvic area wider so the baby can come down more easily 2) I shortens the birth canal 3) It gets gravity on your side working with you.
Having said that, the best position to be in to give birth is the one that you can 1) Get into (for me, squatting was extremely painful because of my sciatic nerve and the back labor I experienced my entire birth) 2) That works for you.
I think it's about choice--not about the doctor telling you what to do and you just obeying orders like a "good robot...er patient." I think that's the point of natural birth anyway--learning to follow your body's lead and doing what works. It's criminal to force a woman to give birth in a position which impedes labor (lying flat on your back hooked up to monitors) or makes her uncomfortable. Back in the 1950s (and even in the early 1980s) they used to tether and shackle women to the hospital bed while she was giving birth!!! It seems it hasn't improved much here in HK. Do they even let you walk around the birthing room to keep labor progressing? (every woman at the hospital I gave birth at was encouraged to walk as much as possible because it does in fact speed up labor).