If this doesn't describe the Hong Kong mom scene...

[AndreaY]

No, no problems, did it properly ;-)

Sorry to intrude on seemingly private argument, but are you serious?! Are you implying all the mothers I know (a big number too) who have tried SOOOO hard to exclusive breastfeed and not succeed was just cos they did it wrong and you did it right? What a crock of condescending sh*t! That is just down right insulting, especially with the ";-P". I think it's great you did not encounter significant problems and you are a lucky one, same as I was. But please do not make it out you are so capable and the 96% (the rest of % you quoted) are just whinging, selfish and cannot bear the responsibility of motherhood. We all know statistics are just numbers and it does not mean "4%" of the bfing mother you know will not have enough milk. In reality, at least from the ones I know , the % is a whole lot higher. Perhaps due to the HK diet, way of life, stress, god knows.

Maybe you should just count your blessings that you have not encountered bf problems that you could not solve and feel a little sympathy for those who are less fortunate than yourself and not judge them so harshly.

 

[pooch]

ok this thread is getting well out of hand - again. not unlike previous bf posts. until now i have kept quiet but I have to say I, along with AndreaY, enjoyed the article and felt it rang true for me.
I find the 'breastfeed at all costs" mentality frightening - and I exclude LLL from this as from what I understand their #1 rule when problems are being encountered is feed the baby - even if its formula. I wish I had this advice first time around. My baby lost 33% of his body weight by day 9 and I was still being told that I should not supplement!! Quote from my dr "would you be happy with a formula-fed baby? Its a slippery slope". This was in London where I was made to feel like I was poisoning my son every time I fed him a bottle of formula. I kid you not - it was a horrible experience.
I have to disagree with MLBW in that I find HK for the most-part to be pro-mum ie. do what works for you & your baby. Having said that the people that tend to post in the bf threads on this forum do tend, on the most part to be insensitive to those of us with who don't bf.
I am glad that my immediate circle of mum friends are a lot more understanding and supportive - in all regards, not just bf.

 

[sherwes]

mumto2, I find your comments very rude and insulting to women (including some very close friends of mine) who really tried their best to exclusively breastfeed but were not able to for a variety of reasons. Quite frankly you sound like you had a "dream run" breastfeeding and you don't seem to have any sympathy for what many other women go through.

And before you ask, I did exclusively breastfeed. I managed to exclusively breastfeed not because I "did it properly" but because I was lucky that an experienced lactation consultant could help me with the problems I was having.

On the issue of whether or not bottle feeding is lazy. I have to say that (once my initial problems were sorted out) breastfeeding was very easy. Once you have the hang of it, it's much easier just to whip out the boob than than it is sterilise bottles, stress about what formula to buy, work out how to get formula reheated on planes etc etc...

 

[mumto2]

Don't sit there on your high horse pretending to know who I am and whether or not I am being condescending or having a private joke with a poster who I think is obviously intelligent enough to know the difference! And how very very sad that you choose to believe that a winking sign was there to demonstrate condescension rather than what it was - what a sad half-empty glass you have.

The facts are 96% of women are able to breastfeed without any difficulties.

You are not seriously trying to blame Hong Kong are you? And yet again with the "big number", "the % is whole lot higher" arguments. Well in MY experience its a WHOLE LOT lower than 4% that cannot breastfeed! And I was quoting (thereabouts on %) a FACT! So who is right???

How difficult is it to ignore posts you find offensive or confusing? People do it every day. If you were confused, perhaps a personal message could have rectified that? You seem hell-bent on nit-picking the parts of my message that you disagree with and ignore the numerous parts where I have said I have NO judgement about what mothers feed their children. But you seem to be confused as to whether or not you wish to take the things I say as serious or not - or are you just trying to pick the parts out that help you win your argument? Would you prefer me to say I actually judge mothers? Would that make you feel better? Because that would be a lie yet you seem to have no problem whatsoever in judging me and thinking you know who I am.