New Vs. Secondhand

[2010-NewDad]

as i said, it depends on the design.
surely making the matress too low and the sides too high, so someone with shorter arms has to "drop" their baby into bed isn't an intelligent design?

Nope, that's a stupid design. A better design is a 3 level adjustable crib without drop sides.

As I said, the chances of this affecting any single baby are low - but if a simple design change can save any lives then I'm happy to support it.

I certainly don't think your argument "this is a stupid idea because only a few babies died" holds water better than the one the Consumer Product Safety Commission is making.

 

[howardcoombs]

Latest recommendations from US Consumer Product Safety Commission prohibit drop-side cribs entirely. Seems sensible to me.

Whenever a new rule is proposed by a group who stand to gain huge amounts of money from the said rule, you should really think about it and examine it very carefully:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-cribs_18mar18,0,1578820.story

There was nothing particularly sensible about this ban. Profit motivation drove the whole process from start to end.

Anyone who gets seriously upset by a couple of dozen baby deaths over a period of a decade should look at pedestrian and traffic death&accident statistics for kids...

 

[carang]

Nope, that's a stupid design. A better design is a 3 level adjustable crib without drop sides.

As I said, the chances of this affecting any single baby are low - but if a simple design change can save any lives then I'm happy to support it.

I certainly don't think your argument "this is a stupid idea because only a few babies died" holds water better than the one the Consumer Product Safety Commission is making.

yeah, so what i said, 'depends on the design' is right.....

 

[2010-NewDad]

yeah, so what i said, 'depends on the design' is right.....

No, not really. Any drop-side design is slightly more dangerous than any non-drop side design. That's why the manufacture of drop side designs is now prohibited in the US.

 

[carang]

which do you think is more dangerous:

drop side cot

or

dropping your baby into a rigid sided cot because you can't reach the matress

 

[howardcoombs]

Any drop-side design is slightly more dangerous than any non-drop side design.

You are 100% correct, every so slightly more dangerous just the same as a regular car being slightly more dangerous than a 7 seater people mover. But we dont go around banning normal cars and forcing people into bigger versions for safety sake...

Also, it is worth noting that this product was extremely useful to parents and the number of deaths were tiny. More kids died from choking on HotDogs (about 50 per year) than this. This turned out to be cause-de-jour for the media so they hyped it along.

That's why the manufacture of drop side designs is now prohibited in the US.

Incorrect;
Fact : Manufacturers had already stopped producing these couple of years before the ban due to recall and liability issues
Fact : ToysRUs, biggest seller of cribs had stopped selling them for almost 2 years previous to the ban.
The ban was helped by the manufacturers themselves for profit reasons. If families were stopped from lending/selling these beds to one another they would have to buy a new and approved crib which made manufacturers huge amounts of money.

 

[2010-NewDad]

No offense Cara, but I don't think it is worth continuing this conversation. I'll leave the intelligent readers of Geobaby to decide which advice is most suitable for them.

 

[carang]

you know they banned walkers in the states, not because they were unsafe in and of themselves, but because parents weren't blocking stairways and kids were falling off the stairs.

they banned bumbo seats in the usa because parents were putting the seats on the top of tables....not because the seats were dangerous.

 

[keninhk]

Thanks all for their original comments and replies! Very helpful.

Re. baby carrier, I have my eye on a real expensive one (Only one that is comfortable) HK$13xx. Hesitating as reading past posts mention their baby's didn't take to being carried this way. Have posters found the baby carrier more used vs. stroller?

We are public transport takers, so imagining in future will go to the baby friendly malls of IFC, Elements and KowloonTong.

thx again!

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[2010-NewDad]

We use baby carrier far more than stroller. Our baby is much happier being carried than strolled, and there are so many stairs and crowds in Hong Kong the stroller can be unwieldy. You might be able to pick up a cheaper carrier from the 2nd hands - have seen Ergos going a lot cheaper than new there.

Carrier definitely easier on public transport too - we also don't have a car and it's much easier on MTR/bus/taxi with a carrier.